SVO navigate was a fantastic experience. It's a small medisized conference. It's quite intimate. It allows you to get to know a lot of the people who are there. And as a speaker, it was a fabulous opportunity to have a room full of end users who really understood the topic that I was talking about and came with a lot of insightful comments and ideas to that I could take away. just as much as, as provide information for them, I was able to take away a lot of, a lot of really great insights from them as well to further my own career. I love so navigate experience. The organization was fantastic. They take really good care of their speakers as well as attendees. It was incredibly well organized. The timing of things was fantastic and I really hope to have the opportunity to repeat again.